We just hate to spend it on a problem that MAY? two days later, another swarm out from another location nearby. The products are only as good as the technicians who are applying them. I rather go bait system and get a warranty behind a reputable pest company.there no guarantee either system will work ( sentricon,Thermidor) but common sense says the less chemical the better for my family and the environment.plus if I worked for a pest control company I would never want to spray Thermidor..I truly think that bait technique would phrase out chemical barrier technique.just my opinion.. Rich P In my opinion you were not ripped off its always best to make sure your chemical barriers are at their recommended strength versus taking the chance of them to be broke down in certain areas so yeah it was a good idea to have your house retreated if youre originally treated in 2007 And always active technology is the new version of sentricon where they Always have the bait inside of them versus them just putting wood in the station and check on them quarterly and once they have actives then placing in the bait If thats the system you have I would contact the pest company that youre dealing with and have them upgrade your system to always active, Chase,,,,What do you mean by the always active technology?? It works! The attic is unfinished and gets below freezing during the winter. Up your way, their prices are a little higher because they are more seasonal and have a much smaller window to bring in revenue. Also, experience is very important. How does he know if he is not an authorized vendor and has no direct experience with it. I am confused. There are a lot of black market and boot-leg products out there. We also got an est for Sentricon HD always active from co A, and Sentricon Monitoring from co b. Termite baiting stations will not eliminate colonies of termitesperiod. ANY Pest professional can use Advance. Cancer and insecticides dont mix and as a cancer survivor any heavy duty chemical on my property is a health risk. Something is fishy about the pest guys claims. Office:3393 3515 So, if a house turns out to have a lot of termites, and that is hard to tell ahead of time, the pest company is reluctant to keep putting in additional bait, because he could lose money. Enough said. It serves as an ideal solution for termite treatment in construction walls, crawl spaces, basement, foundation elements and other elements like trees and landscape. It will kill them. I also understand the cost aspect of it, so I would call your current vendor and try to negotiate a lower price with them. Thanks guys. Id rather use both types of bait alternating in 10 feet intervals and monitor weekly. We dont use Premise or any of the other cheaper brands because they dont hold up as well. From what I have read on this site, it appears that Sentricon is more environmentally friendly than Termidor. It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. I had a strange feeling that the posts would be deleted so I saved them as a Word file. However, both options deliver solutions on their own timeframe and have a very different impact on your budget, the environment, and your life. WebAlso Termidor. If you do, something is wrong. Anthony- I would be very careful about buying any of these products on line. Also, how often do pre-baited systems need to be checked? Id be especially interested to hear from the pros. The polymer then dissipates and thus allows the fipronil to bind to the soil. The dealers must get training and sign an agreement to pay for product. You are welcome to your biased opinion as to how effective Sentricon is, however, my opinion, having worked with both products is that they are equally effective. Of all the baits, Sentricon is the only one where the manufacturer follows up to make sure the inspections are being done. I have to make a decision soon as I will have to renew the Sentricon warranty for another year. Sentricon is the most environmentally friendly. I worked with a Termite Control Company while in High School from 1958 to 1960, and have been in the business continually since 1968 and in eastern Tenness for the past 20 plus years now. Sentricon is only sold via Certified companies by DOW. What these companies DONT tell you is that they are just selling you a warranty. My company does both methods. thats up to 730 pounds of subfloor, girder beam, floor joists, studwall, etc that will be gone. Never have I used baits or applied termidor at .06% and I have never had a re treatment in 26-years. To use Altriset, a professional digs a deep trench around the home. Sentricon system is no longer offered by Terminix who inspected our home last week. And as far as having hundreds of gallons of pesticide dumped around your home with a liquid treatment, not true. If that stuff leaks, then how porous is it? Do we need to do anything in addition to the Termidor? Both methods have a similar initial cost ($700 $1,200), but the annual renewal is usually a little higher for Sentricon (4 trips instead of 1). And should I expect to pay for this evaluation. Also they only show up a couple times during the year. This non-repellency factor is a great attribute in subterranean termite control. Both products work great. For us it is a last resort after sand barriers, bait stations and screens are used. Its very common to have ground water leaks and with newer liquid and bait drilling the floor just for prevention is a little outdated. After ready all the back and forth for Sentricon and termidor I am still at a loss as to which is the best . We have received 5 estimates to treat termites and all but 1 recommendded Termidor the other company recommended Sentricon because of the high water table and said putting the liquid into the ground with a high water table would dilute it. Questions? Folks, that is an unbelievable statement because you cant even drink a cup of coffee without risking potential side effects! Ive been using Sentricon around my house for years and have been very happy with the results. When used alone, baits often fail or additional damage may continue to occur until they work. I would stick with one of those three products though (Termidor, Sentricon, Altriset).The rest of the products out there are effective, just not as effective as those three. The Sentricon system uses a metabolism inhibitor that kills 90% of the termites that feed on it. Our typical recommendation is to use Termidor HE in tiled areas and SC for the rest as a cost effective and practical alternative. With baits if you dont renew all you have is a plastic station with two pieces of wood in it. Sign in for a personalized shopping experience and faster checkout. I will complete my research for company complaints right away. It is not the bank advertiser's responsibility to ensure all posts and/or questions are answered. Thus, were currently considering our options. Our full perimeter subterranean termite treatments also include a one year, moneyback guarantee! As Termidor HE can be injected at greater distance between drill holes, in tiled and concreted areas these can be placed in more aesthetically pleasing positions. I don\\\t want to be taken advantage of again. Some companies will only carry a guarantee for so many years and then you must re-treat or drop the guarantee. Since the bait tubes are about every 10 feet around the structure, it will take care of millions of termites. domyownpestcontrol.com is a legit site, and their customer service is incredible. Altriset Termiticide: Active ingredient in altriset is Chlorantraniliprole. I live in New England and have owned my home for 15 years. I expressed joy that my annual fee would surely drop, only to find that this will not happen. We are not interested in spending additional money unnecessarily since we do not have a current problem. I would like to leave the comments open on this thread because there has been a lot of good discussion. Bait only is not the best treatment for termites. Call them and ask them. Answer: Altriset Termiticide and Termidor SC are both used as an outdoor treatment for termites. In the case of the bait installations, the average time to first feeding is 100 days, and there is no estimate of the average time to termite control. You need an opinion from a local firm. Question: As a 5 year old, concrete slab, brick & hardiplank house, in GA, without a current termite problem, which type of system is best for us? He will inspect the house next week. Ants swarm sometimes too. WebAlso Termidor. The products that we sell are safe when used as directed, but be a little safety conscious. So how do they find the Termidor? Does it seem reasonable to trust the research results for Altrisets effectiveness (which appear very good), given my concern with potential for pet or human exposure to Termidor? If you need a spot treatment for drywood termites and you dont want to use a traditional pesticide, then Altriset may be the perfect choice. It was first introduced in the United States in 2000. Dominion Termiticide: Usually, in the absence of moisture, they are simply trapped inside the wall, cannot organize a new colony and eventually dehydrate (dry up) and die. Size does count , with the larger stations Ive had more hits. Cost is about the same. Cest la vie. Orange Oil is one such safe treatment for drywood termites. The owner of the business always says it is dry rot or flying ants. After you have stopped the termites with a termiticide, it is time to go after the colony with a bait system. One tunnel led in through the foundation and they have eaten away some of my panelings support wood and a mud tunnel led in up thru my shingles into the basement. As strange as it may sound, I think I would feel better about spending the money if we knew we had termites currently feeding on the house. Termidor SC requires a high labor input to ensure the barrier is up to standard, and the drilled holes need to be very close to each other, which means that sometimes the technician will have to drill through the centre of tiles rather than grout lines. The active ingredient is chlorantraniliprole. Should the treatment be done before or after the digging? That garage would only be about $400 $500 to treat which will kill the colonies feeding on the garage so they will never get to your home..Stay away from Orkin, find a good locally owned company. I would appreciate your input! Homeowners beware. My company has treated over 30,000 homes for termites in the past 50 years. I have been in the industry for 40 years and agree with you Jim. So, the barrier created stays effective longer. 10 feet for a termite is equal to just over a mile for a human. I would not depend on DuPonts Altriset either. A national chain is going to have higher overhead because they pay a chunk to headquarters. They will not all feast on the bait station, as some will tunnel right past it. My pest control company is supposed to go this weekend. I am a PMP (pest management professional). they ate lots of bait and the technician replaced a tube of bait. is the key. Your home is now being protected year round with active bait. However, if I have to spend any further time moderating it, I will simply lock the comments. Drilling Porches, Patios and Concrete Expansions, Treating Inside Walls, Plumbing Penetrations and Voids, Foaming Inside Walls and Plumbing Penetrations, 2 Step Professional Approach to Killing Termites. If you want less pesticides, go with Sentricon. They are equally effective. I have inspected over 10,000 homes for termites and also chaired the Wood Destroying Insect Committee for the National Pest Management Assn. If you go to the Sentricon website, you could probably find an authorized operator in your part of the country who could give you more localized information. I have read that the tubes get pheromones from active termites, which may ward off future colony workers. This system is expensive but heck if it was going to give us peace of mind it was worth it. WebTermidor is not systemic and does not affect plant life around your home. Thats just my opinion. The active termites in the house (which I have) appear to be ignored by Terminix and expect that over time they will be eliminated by the Sentricon system, which probably could take months. To deliver long-lasting protection, the product leaves residual effect in the soil so that termites dont return. Bait stations are a natural alternative and dont dump chemicals into the soil or kill beneficial insects especially ants that kill termites. When it comes to pesticides, detergents, appliances, etc., Ive come to equate green with junk as demonstrated by todays green toilets that cant manage to flush down a decent dump without clogging or todays green washing machines that require specialized (i.e. and even though termites feed on the bait it seems that all we ever did was keep feeding themwe feed them for 3 years and never eliminated themonce becoming a Sentricon AO we eliminated the colony at the Exterra sites in a few months with soldier heads in the bait tubesI never found that in the Exterra stations or Advance I recently purchased a company in Central Fl. Bear in mind that the two products actually contain the exact same active ingredient, the major difference is how they are spread and distributed in the soil. You can clearly see it was termites. Dow also has its own quality control people (which is good),in the fine print (if its stil ther,it been a few years)you will be authorizing Dow to show up at your door usually unannounced to chech your property, and if your not there it still gets checked..One thing I have managed to do since I went into business for myself is to really tic-off my competition with honesty and a 5 year guarantee to back it up. Liquid will always be better than bait. Orkin says that Termidor would be the best option at 1800.00. In your case I would suggest a bait system if there is no current sign of activity but you know they are there..I would also suggest checking other companies cause Sentricon is the most expensive but not the best. Thanks, yeah after thinking about it, it sounded like a bad program since you are relying on their word that they will treat it. It works by paralyzing the mouths of termites within hours of exposure, stopping further damage immediately. Arnaldo. What is this ones? If its too wet or too dry-no termites. Ive gotten a couple of quotes now from two Termidor treatment companies. We removed the damaged wood and floated a floor leveler over the area where the old posts were removed. A lot of Pest Management professionals that didnt get chosen as a Sentricon dealer say detrimental things about it because they are mad about not being chosen. Regardless of construction type, reduced application volume provides time savings in all treatments. Sentricon has been around a lot longer. The world is getting greener all the time and Sentricon is a product that works great and does not involve injecting a hundred gallons of pesticide into the environment. Jay talked about that house that took 4 months to get a hit and one year to control the termites you need something faster than that. What did the company do? Termidor is great. I live in the heart of the south in Mississippi. However, they dont always eliminate the infestation and even when they do, one or more years is often required to eliminate the infestation. Research shows, applying Termidor SE pre-construction and post-construction prevent pests. If they find that termites have infested your home afterwards, they come in and treat with chemical anyway. The rest of the basement was drywalled 2 years ago with no sign of termite activity. The name of this new product is Altriset and youre going to be hearing about more and more homeowners using it to treat termites in the coming years. I have been treating termites since 1969. NOW, with Always Active Sentricon technology, the termites prefer the new bait much more than wood. I live in South Georgia. Im in Missouri, if that makes a difference. With Advance (and all the other bait products out there), the pest company pays piecemeal (approx $10 per station and $20 per bait tube). Termidor or Premise is the way to go. It has years of data backing up its effectiveness in several University studies. Im sure Premise has worked well for Ron and others who want a lower cost alternative, but they shouldnt bad mouth products that they have never used and know very little about. That is just plain silly. Instead, they contact, ingest and share Termidor , completely unaware that doing so inevitably will kill them. im from the philippines. Works great. Does that really mean you can let it sit for a year? For another opinion, I would go to the National Pest Management Association site (you can google it). You will hear different information on this subject depending upon what they have used or know about. Liquid is the only thing that can give you a solid barrier all the way around your home. However, sometimes, people dont want holes drilled through their stoops or tile floors or dont want 100s of gallons of pesticide injected around their homes. I am trying hard to not put you down, but you spew hatred and vengeance toward Sentricon, which is an excellent, green product. It is tightly controlled and is only available to Authorized Operators who go thru extensive training. You offer advice on this thread, which is confusing and misleading about products you know very little about because you have never used them. I have three little kids (and a cat), whom I want to protect. Trey is going against the label: no partial treatments with Termidor allowed. Had no sign once so ever that I had an issue. ?I hope the company is backing it up?? WebTermidor is an advanced undetectable liquid technology. Best bang for your Buck? Sentricon bids are paired with Termidor spot treatment and are from adjacent metro, thus lacking recommendations from anyone I know. It just seems there is a lot of unguarded space between stationsthe stations could be bypassed. Ill post it again on Monday. They are isolated in my upstairs master shower area. The Sentricon Stations are about 1 foot underground, where the termites are foraging. Every company has to make it at the end of the day. I live in a wooded area and dont want to wait around to see if Im going to catch anything in a trap. 1.1 g/cm3 ( 20 C) Vapour density: not applicable Partitioning coefficient n-octanol/water (log Pow): not applicable Pricing is similar. It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. They work great! It just costs the consumer more to pay for your unnecessary visits. That cost is often reflected in the cost of the treatment-no matter what you choose. All Animal Care , Shop All I am very well aware. In short stay away from Orkin and FMC Frontline baits. I have a 8 X 10 shed in Arizona that has concrete around 2 sides. Not theoretically, but in real experience? Ehrlich says they wouldnt plant anything in the whole garden. Yes. Earlier posts on this site indicate that Sentricon was preferable, but these were couple years old posts. Even if they eat the bait, it might not even be the same colony of termites eating the home, and might not even destroy the colony anyway. Sure wish wed taken preventative measures when we moved in almost 3 years ago, but we didnt. You have to use liquid if you want a proper termite treatment. After that, it has had enough time to dry and should be fine. Termidor is very effective against termites as well as other pests such as ants and bugs. I cant give you advice because we dont have a high water table in our area. If both cause some toxicity, what else is recommended? Termidor has no color, taste, odor or fumes and is easily transmitted through feeding and grooming from termite to termite. In order to be a Sentricon Dealer, you have to have been selected, sort of like a Mercedes Dealer. Sigh. So now the decision is back to prevention now or wait until we find termites closer to the house. What do you think about this argument? Is this common and does Sentricon also kill ant colonies? In Mississippi, the most difficult site for a termiticide, Altriset has achieved 100% control for nine straight years. Altriset is a highly effective termite control product that stops the termites from feeding within hours of application. However, when they do find the station, it will attract other termites by way of phermone interaction amongst the colony. Most Sentricon vendors have gone to once a year inspections with the new generation (AE/Always Active) bait. fortunately, in the case of my home, we have only a 20 concrete driveway and 15 concrete patio to drill through the rest of the house is surrounded by landscape beds and easy to drill/inject into. Currently, it is Dupont for Altiset. To all of my friends here. Thus, leading to an inferior barrier. Tyler, not all Orkin and Terminix techs are bad. Opinions expressed here are author's alone, not those of the bank advertiser, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by the bank advertiser. They both are certified Sentricon dealers. Anything to get out of paying. Over time as the termite activity has disappeared the extra bait stations were removed. The ratio of damage claims vs the number of sentricon customers is extremely low. I am not sure who that Ron guy is, but after reading through various posts, he doesnt seem very knowledgeable, in my opinion. Talstar Professional, Prelude Termiticide / Insecticide andBifen are examples of repellent chemicals. Also they dont offer a warranty. Scott- The termites dont need to come to the surface or to build tunnels. I do not belong to the Nat. Uh.. wouldnt that defeat the purpose of non-repellant poisons like Termidor? Research shows, applying Termidor SE pre-construction and post-construction prevent pests. We decided to go w/Sentricon and annual contract including 4 visits/year to check the bait stations. This means that many people are concerned with whether or not this kind of treatment will actually get rid of their termite problems. The mud tunnels are in the boiler room leading up from the joint between the floor and the wall (poured concrete), about 4 ft below grade. We live in an area of NJ where the water table is high and the dirt is sandy but can be hard like clay. Personally, I trust Imidacloprid more from a health standpoint. Tom- Jim is right in that Termidor will be your best answer. Termites are constantly foraging to find cellulose (wood). The cost for all three treatment types is nearly equal. 2) It depends where the live termites were found. As far as The 2 major companys you keep talking about, they are like dirty used car salesmans. I have used both Termidor and Sentricon for several years. You mentioned bait complaints online, there are alot of them yet very few on Termidor. So, if you get hits in 10 stations (not unlikely), you will have to pay about $15 per bait tube for each stations (on top of what you already paid for the stations). Only a handful of drill holes around the base of the house. Is this Altriset really any safer? It is not topical. "Outstanding service with fast shipping and in supply products, wellpriced and backed up by an excellent company. We just bought a home with extensive termite damage that wasnt found until after closing, despite TWO termite inspections by different companies. . Also the cost to treat with Altriset is as high or higher than Termidor which is bullet proof . Looking forward to your initial payment and monthly/quarterly/annual payments so we can continue to milk you and tell you to go pound sand when (not if) your house is destroyed by what well claim is a special kind of bug that isnt covered by our warranty., All our best (profits), Love, That would work in the long run (10 out). I am thinking about getting a termite job to our house to keep termites out. If they arent Authorized Sentricon Operators, then they recommend Termidor or Altriset over the Advance. * Free Shipping is available to the continental United States only. Termidor is the best way to treat a house for termites. Jessica, This guy Jay is always Blah-Blah-Blah Sentricon.The truth is sentricon is the second worst bait on the market due to its SMALL size.The worst is Firstline which is what Orkin uses.And for the record I turned down Sentricon!Also bait is MUCh more expensive in the long run. Your best bet is to go with Termidor. With a liquid, or a liquid plus bait, you can rest assured that termites will be eliminated from your home. If they are being evasive about a guarantee dont deal with them. Hope this has helped. Im wondering if we should put sentricon outside the house. If your home was treated with Termidor 5 years ago it should be fine for about 10 more years at least. If termites are present inside the structure and a repellent chemical is used, the termites will "back up" inside the walls to avoid it. If you are dealing with Formosan Termites, the carton nest will have to be found and removed usually a direct application of termiticide will take care of the problem. I\\\m going to be safe than sorry, but I think I saw some damage downstairs that he didn\\\t see during the inspection. I just cant afford to drop 1000$ on something that may be a bit of a scam. It seems to have less complaints online than the bait stations as well. Termites forage randomly and continuously until one of the worker members of the colony find the underground wood. Not to take away from Sentricon, as I have stated I do believe they are probably the leading bait stations and they do work excellent once termites find them, but you must use liquid along with the bait. I got 5 estaments, all the in same price range and prety much the same area treatment procedure. Also, I believe I have polypipe outside the house. Termidor and Sentricon are both great, proven termiticides. Im going to be safe than sorry, but I think I saw some damage downstairs that he didnt see during the inspection. How can you tell how safe a product is to use? Depending on the soil type, holes can be drilled up to 450 mm apart. Some warranties have a low limit on the damage covered. The first unqualified treatment was done by the sellers. Also, Advance encourages skimping by the pest pro. Anyone know whats going on? Termidor labeling now says you can get by by just treating the exterior walls for conventional but we still treat piers and the inside wall just to be safe. Upon reading Company A proposal, it states that It is understood and agreed that this guarantee covers the native Subterranean termite only and excludes the Formosan Subterranean termite, the non-subterranean (Kalotermitidae, hodotermitidae, and rhinotermitdae) and all other wood destroying insects and organisms.. Probably the best way is to read the manufacturers label which is attached on the side of the bottle. Today, we talk about this product in detail and look at its applications and effects to help you understand what you can expect from it. You dont look like a proffesional to me. Jay is right to say the farther north you are the higher the prices.Down south with a year round bug season there are alot of companies competing. 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